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Thursday, September 10, 2015
Our first hour guest today is author and speaker, Lt. Col.Robert Maginnis. Maginnis discusses his book, Never Submit: Will the Extermination of Christians Get Worse Before It Gets Better? Also on the show today is Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council. He tells us more about his book, No Fear: Real Stories of a Courageous New Generation Standing for Truth. And while we are on the subject of real stories of a courageous new generation, we also have Aaron Klein from Sweet Cakes Bakery who shares his story of standing up for truth.
Our first hour guest today is author and speaker, Lt. Col.Robert Maginnis. Maginnis discusses his book, Never Submit: Will the Extermination of Christians Get Worse Before It Gets Better? Also on the show today is Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council. He tells us more about his book, No Fear: Real Stories of a Courageous New Generation Standing for Truth. And while we are on the subject of real stories of a courageous new generation, we also have Aaron Klein from Sweet Cakes Bakery who shares his story of standing up for truth.

HOST

Kerby Anderson

Kerby Anderson

Host — Point of View

Kerby Anderson is host of Point of View Radio Talk Show and also serves as the President of Probe Ministries. He holds masters degrees from Yale University (science) and Georgetown University (governm...

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Lt. Col.Robert Maginnis

Lt. Col.Robert Maginnis

Author | Speaker — field_542d8190101fc

Bob Maginnis is a Washington, DC-based broadcast national security and foreign policy analyst with 22 years of extensive experience speaking on tough issues with most major broadcast and cable televis...

Bob Maginnis is a Washington, DC-based broadcast national security and foreign policy analyst with 22 years of extensive experience speaking on tough issues with most major broadcast and cable television and radio outlets to include Fox News and CNN. He is an author having been both a columnist for conservative outlets with more than 800 published articles on national security and geopolitical issues. His book Deadly Consequences: How Cowards Are Pushing Women into Combat was published by Regnery in 2013 and his new book, Never Submit: Will the Extermination of Christians Get Worse Before It Gets Better? is published by Defender Publishing. Maginnis was a Fox News analyst during Operation Iraqi Freedom and served as a member of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s retired military analyst program from 2002 to 2006. Bob is a long-time Pentagon insider having served as an active duty officer on the task force that wrote the homosexual exclusion policy in 1993, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and for the past 13 years he is back in the Pentagon supervising a team specializing in international affairs as well as directing the Army’s sole course training Army officers to plan engagements with foreign partners. He has extensive overseas work experience – Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. That experience helps his current service as the vice president for operations with MESMO Inc., a Maryland-based small business that specializes in language services, intelligence analysis and security cooperation for the U.S. Government. He is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point and the Naval Postgraduate School at Monterey. His special military training includes Ranger and airborne schools, Command & General Staff College and the U.S. Army War College Strategist Course as well as the Defense Language Institute. Bob is an active evangelical Christian speaking in local churches, at conferences, and in the media. Bob and his wife have two grown children.

Tony Perkins

Tony Perkins

President — Family Research Council

Tony Perkins is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council. He is a former member of the Louisiana legislature where he served for eight years, and he is recognized as a legislati...

Tony Perkins is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council. He is a former member of the Louisiana legislature where he served for eight years, and he is recognized as a legislative pioneer for authoring measures like the nation's first Covenant Marriage law. Although he had no opposition for re-election, he kept his pledge to serve only two terms and left office at the completion of his term in 2004. He was a Republican candidate for the United States Senate in 2002. Since joining FRC in the fall of 2003 he has launched new initiatives to affirm and defend the Judeo-Christian values that this nation is founded upon.

Aaron Klein

Aaron Klein

Owner | Proprietor — Sweet Cakes Bakery

Aaron and Melissa Klein's dream of opening a dessert shop near Portland, Oregon turned into a nightmare when two lesbians refused to take "no" for an answer on their request for a same-sex wedding cak...

Aaron and Melissa Klein's dream of opening a dessert shop near Portland, Oregon turned into a nightmare when two lesbians refused to take "no" for an answer on their request for a same-sex wedding cake. In January 2013, the Kleins explained that they couldn't take the order because it would violate their faith to participate in a same-sex marriage ceremony. Furious, the women filed a complaint with the state. Due to public pressure, the Kleins were forced to close the shop in Gresham and operate out of their home, where they continued to be the objects of harassment and vandalism. Investigators from the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries ruled late that the couple was guilty of discrimination and ordered the Kleins to settle. Facing up to $150,000 in damages, Aaron and Melissa made it clear that they were willing to pay a far steeper price to stand up for Christ. The story made national headlines, as the young couple became another face in the war on religious liberty. "We still stand by what we believe from the beginning," Aaron told reporters. "I'm not sure what the future holds, but as far as where we're at right now... it's almost as if the state is hostile toward Christian businesses." In a January 2, 2015 ruling, as part of his 52-page order, Judge Alan McCullough claimed that "requir[ing] them to provide a wedding cake for Complainants does not constitute compelled speech." At time of publication, the Kleins' case is under appeal.

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