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Friday, July 4, 2025

Welcome to our July Fourth show! Our own Kerby Anderson hosts today. To begin, Kerby brings us a teaching hour about the history of the Fourth of July. Kerby's guest in the second hour is Karl Vaters. Karl brings us his book, De-Sizing the Church.

We would love to hear from you. Call 800-351-1212 or contact us on facebook at facebook.com/pointofviewradio.

Welcome to our July Fourth show! Our own Kerby Anderson hosts today. To begin, Kerby brings us a teaching hour about the history of the Fourth of July. Kerby's guest in the second hour is Karl Vaters. Karl brings us his book, De-Sizing the Church.

We would love to hear from you. Call 800-351-1212 or contact us on facebook at facebook.com/pointofviewradio.

HOST

Kerby Anderson

Kerby Anderson

Host — Point of View

Kerby Anderson is host of Point of View Radio Talk Show and also serves as the President of Probe Ministries. He holds masters degrees from Yale University (science) and Georgetown University (govern...

GUESTS

Karl Vaters

Karl Vaters

Author | Speaker | Podcast Host — The Church Lobby

KARL VATERS has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He is the author of The Church Recovery Guide, 100 Days to a He...

KARL VATERS has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He is the author of The Church Recovery Guide, 100 Days to a Healthier Church, Small Church Essentials, and The Grasshopper Myth. Karl also hosts a biweekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry. You can learn more about Karl at www.KarlVaters.com. He and his wife, Shelley, have three children and two grandkids.

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